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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 21:37:00 -
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Tickles the ****e out out of me that you null sec carebears think it's sooooo cooooool to say risk-v-reward while sitting in your little comfy corner of space with all your cannon fodder gate camping and blobbing. Not sure who told you that 100 to 1 is PVP but guess it's someone with the mentality of Mittens.
It's far safer in 0.0 than ever in hi-sec. The only reason why we're seeing your null-carebear tears now is that people have finally gotten tired of you shoving them around as if they're your slave or something. Hollering on coms and calling people idiots all the while you have your mains sitting in trade hubs selling everything mined from your systems by your little minnions and bots.
Get over yourselves and live what you say. You guys wouldn't know what PVP was if it hit you in the rear you dumb flunkies.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 15/08/2011 22:03:59
Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 15/08/2011 22:01:42
 Originally by: Rikeka
Edited by: Rikeka on 15/08/2011 21:52:29
Originally by: Dusty Warrior
Tickles the ****e out out of me that you null sec carebears think it's sooooo cooooool to say risk-v-reward while sitting in your little comfy corner of space with all your cannon fodder gate camping and blobbing. Not sure who told you that 100 to 1 is PVP but guess it's someone with the mentality of Mittens.
It's far safer in 0.0 than ever in hi-sec. The only reason why we're seeing your null-carebear tears now is that people have finally gotten tired of you shoving them around as if they're your slave or something. Hollering on coms and calling people idiots all the while you have your mains sitting in trade hubs selling everything mined from your systems by your little minnions and bots.
Get over yourselves and live what you say. You guys wouldn't know what PVP was if it hit you in the rear you dumb flunkies.
Stopped reading there. You have no idea. And bots? Sure, there are bots in 0.0... no more than in a single ice belt in a high sec system in empire... but truly, there are both in 0.0, I agree. And please, elaborate your pvp prowess in WoW PVP Servers all you want, you must be awesome there, cause risks are just too great there.
I have every idea as I lived in null for a little over 4 years. Yeah I have a VERY good idea what takes place in 0.0. Even the open discussions of admitting to botting on coms. Vent/TS3/mummble Yeah I know what happens in 0.0 and is why I will never return until CCP addresses the problem. The problem isn't hi-sec, the problem is the people in 0.0.
P.S. Don't really care where you stopped reading tbh as it is you who doesn't have a clue as evident of your previous rants.
P.S.S Never played another mmo up to the recent events and then only playing W.O.T.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:11:00 -
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Yeah... you'd love to get my mains and alts names wouldn't you? That way you can get your flunkies to make my life just as miserable as yours. Nice spin though. I notice anytime you 0.0 flunkies get a little resistance you try to dismiss a post by... give me your main's name or you're nothing.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Fina
People tend to look at established 0,0-corps/alliances and see very little risk.
The same people are also forgetting that 0,0 space wasn't given to these corps/alliances for free. If one compare the effort of acquiring a precense and rights in a high-sec system to a 0,0 system then higher rewards are justified.
Safety in 0,0 isn't aqcuired by game-design, like in high-sec, but by struggle and politics or a hefty fee.
It's very little riski when you have mining ops in the already ricj enviornment mining to stay in your so precious 0.0 corners. Mining quotas, CTA requirements etc etc etc.. like I said. The only people who stand to lose anything in your 0.0 alliance is the ones who joined your slave corps.
You all holler ship replacements but when it comes down to actually doing it... you come up with a lame excuse like... you lost it on a Friday, sorry we don't replace ships lost on Fridays. One I like best is ... we don't replace your ship unless it's fitted like XYZ. But it was! No, you had a named module, sorry.
Idea: Quit treating your corp members and alliance comrads like **** and you might have people migrate to 0.0. Doubt that will happen as you have too many monocles to buy.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:36:00 -
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Captain,
Believe me buddy... I understand all of that but yet again the ones who helped set that up see very little return in the scheme of things.
I've been there and done about everything in null there was to do. I've seen how much alliance heads rake in isk wise, yet it still doesn't seem enough for them. They want to reach out and destroy hi-sec which has worked fine for 8 years thus far.
The reason why people are losing interest in null sec isn't because of the revenue in hi-sec but the treatment they recieve in 0.0 by supposed comrads. They're treated as slaves. If you're an industrialists you are expected to mine your quota and respond to CTAs all the while trying to make a little isk on the side. If you're a PVP'r you're expected to support yourself while protecting someone's sov with little or no compensation while yet again the corp/alliance heads sit in hi-sec raking in the isk by the billions weekly.
Jealous? I make my isk with my own back. Not on the back of others. It's a matter of principle for me even if it's a game.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:19:00 -
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It relates to the subject at hand as we're discussing the POSSIBLE changes being suggested by 0.0 alliances which atm controls the CSM.
Again... the problem isn't with hi-sec mechanics. The problem lies within the sov holding 0.0 alliances. Plural as I've been a part of more than one. The three I was a part of; had the same problems. I know they're more but after seeing how three of which two are still major players, were the last time I cared to look. I thought why try for the 4th? I presently reside in lo-sec and hi-sec and perfectly comfortable.
Personally atm I'm sitting on enough isk to do as I please regardless what nerfing decision CCP ultimately makes. Just not sure if a new player will find it interesting enough to stay beyond trial period if CCP keeps nerfing what I call "Introduction Grounds" or "Training Grounds" if all they can do is fly around in hi-sec with nothing to do once the belts/missions/ice belts/poses etc etc is nerfed as the 0.0 idiots are wanting done.
It's obvious neither of us will agree with the other, therefore I'll waste no more time posting. However, remember this; If there is ever a movement of so-called hi-sec carebears onto 0.0 sov I'll be there to help as I believe 0.0 sov holders have become complacent in their comfy seats.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Saliss Aya
So, from all that is being said here, I take it that nullsec (unlike high sec) is a place where the devs would like people to go, but the players aren't going in large enough numbers, or the devs would be happy and this wouldn't be an issue...
So, why don't they (the devs) put together a survey, and find out what the majority of their players want and then try to provide this. Problem solved in my opinion.
To me this seems like basic business sense. Know your market and today with online marketing, etc, they could survey each player as they logged on.
Great proposal, liken the same thing I proposed in other posts. Do away with the CSM and allow the playerbase decide through login voting. However I was told in another post my idea is stupid.
Not sure why it's stupid since it would give everyone who PAYS a form of input. Not just the loud mouths in the pockets of the CSM.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.16 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ladie Scarlet
Originally by: Windjammer
The writer is indicating, and accurately so, that people arenĘt in null because they donĘt want to put up with the bull of the corps and alliances large enough to survive there. The indication is that people are in high sec because they like their independence and the relatively bull free of smaller corps.
You literally have no clue how nullsec works.
Really?
Is that the only response you 0.0 carebears can give? Every time someone says something negative about 0.0 the response is that we don't understand. Dammit... get a new line as many of us so called lo-hi sec carebears have lived in 0.0, we KNOW!
You 0.0 carebears really need to refresh your screen and come up with a new line. We know! All anyone needs to look at is DOTLAN.COM and see how much pvp takes place in your so called impoverished 0.0 sov. While you're looking, take a look at pvp statistics in lo and hi sec... mkay?
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.16 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 16/08/2011 03:58:48
Originally by: xavier69
Level 4 missions in low sec = cancel sub forever
Hopefully you idiots can get that
i wont fly t1 trash with 45m sp due to gankers, if thatĘs it ill play one of the 100x mmo out there that donĘt playact to online predators
Not sure they care buddy. Isn't it apparent by now the most of the ones wanting to nerf hi/lo/wh only care about padding their wallets?
Short of doing away with the CSM the next solution would be everyone in hi-sec join forces and go from null system to system removing all 0.0 inhabitants until they shut their mouths, of which I'm not sure it wouldn't be a bad idea to just go ahead and clean out the trash in null anyway. Seems they're the ones doing the most whining as of late. All the time making claims lo/hi/wh peeps are tearing up. 
Actually... come to think of it... not sure lo/hi/wh people were whining about anything until 0.0 carebears started this debacle.
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Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.16 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ladie Scarlet
Originally by: Dusty Warrior
Really?
Is that the only response you 0.0 carebears can give? Every time someone says something negative about 0.0 the response is that we don't understand.
Yes, really. When the same ignorant statements are made about nullsec from people who don't live there, have never lived there and never plan on living there then it's clear that the people making them don't understand how nullsec works. Especially when it comes to Windjammer...he has an axe to grind and an obvious agenda so nobody should be taking anything he says seriously.
I have no idea the experience windjammer might or might not have in 0.0. I speak for myself and have extensive experience living in 0.0.
However, in your delusional world of 0.0 living you think you and anyone who lives in 0.0 has an entitlement to change lo/hi/wh space to cater to you?
It's abundantly clear some of the members of the present CSM and posters here are totally clueless to the mechanics of some parts of EVE, yet they still try to change something they have no clue about.
What surprises me is that you 0.0 carebears still believe in the delusion that you make up the majority of the playerbase.
Amazing!
Anywhoo... whatever floats your boat.
Not even sure why I'm responding to someone in an alliance that idolizes noob griefing via so called security deposits, full api requirements and suggesting noobs to contract over their assets only to steal said assets because you fail in everything else but the lowest form of EVE play.
Guess I'll say it again, whatever floats your boat.
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